"You're In Charge" with Glenn Pasch
"You're In Charge" with Glenn Pasch

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Brian Fanzo: ADHD is My Superpower


ADHD. When many people hear this, they are either confused as to what it is or how it affects people. What if you thought about it differently? What if you thought it was a superpower?

In this power episode, Brian Fanzo joins Glenn Pasch to discuss what his journey with ADHD has been and how through understanding and resilience, it truly has been a blessing.

Brian Fanzo who has created his own footprint online as well as consults for Fortune 500 companies continues to be an evangalist on never allowing perceived handicaps limit your portential. 

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About Brian Fanzo

Brian Fanzo is a digital futurist keynote speaker who translates the trends of tomorrow to inspire change today. His customized and personalized programs showcase real-world stories and examples of forward-thinking people and businesses. He teaches companies of all sizes how to leverage technology in real time in order to engage their customers at the right time.

Brian has a gift for bringing people together online and offline. He has worked in 76 countries, highlighting his passion for change, collaboration, and technology.

Brian is currently the Founder of iSocialFanz, which has helped launch digital and influencer strategies with the world’s most iconic brands like Dell, EMC, Adobe, IBM, UFC, Applebee’s, and SAP. Brian has been recognized as a Top 20 Digital Transformation Influencer; a Top 50 Most-Mentioned User by CMOs on Twitter, and a Top 25 Social Business Leader of the Future by The Economist. His followers on social media and podcast downloads rank in the hundreds of thousands, resulting in Brian being an influencer for 19 of the Fortune 100 companies.

Connect on Linkedin with Brian or on his website https://www.isocialfanz.com/

About Glenn Pasch:

"Everyone finds themselves in charge at some point in their lives. Yet many of us lack the skills to generate consistent results. My goal is to help you learn the skills to adapt and grow in your personal and business life.”

Glenn Pasch is CEO of PCG Digital, a full service digital marketing agency that specializes in helping businesses create and deliver customers raving, recommending & returning for more.

He is author of 2 books including "The Power of Connected Marketing" and has spoken and educated audiences throughout the US and internationally.

Let’s Connect:

Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glennpasch/​

Personal Website http://glennpasch.com/​

Company website: https://pcgdigital.com/

When you hear the word or theletters adhd, what comes to mind? I know that there are a lotof people who suffer with this and are diagnosed with this and they struggle.I know that one of my sons has a slight case of this and hedoes have some challenges, but overall he's just moving through the world and Icouldn't be more proud of him. But what if you thought about it differently? What if you thought having a dhd was a superpower that could actually helpyou if you understood it and harnessed it? Well, that's the conversation that I'mhaving in this power episode with Brian Fans Oh. For many he istruly successful, international speaker, wellknown content creator, business owner, social mediaexpert. I mean you look at his life and you'd say wow, butwhen he shared his journey and how this has led him to be more productiveonce he understood it, I think this is such an impactful episode to helpso many. So let's dive into this power episode of You'R in charge conversationsthat spark change with the one and only Brian Fans Oh. You mentioned yourAdhd and one of the things that I have a lot of respect for you'revery open with that. How it's your superpower. More and more people aresharing more about themselves honestly, sort of that again, that behind the scenes. One of the things I've always loved about your content. I mean evenyour set up right behind you, you know it's not it's it's here's allthe peas. If I turn this way, I have a green screen. Nowhere's my board over here, or you know, you've done the gopro and all over, and I think that allows people to see what reallyit means to be a creative person. So same thing with this, withyour adhd. Why did you decide to share that and how is it impactedother people or the feedback that you've been getting from people, because you're soopen about it? Well, I thank you for bringing that up and youknow it is something important and a driving force for me. You know,interested in I mean I was diagnosed at thirty one years old, so Iwould it was nine years ago that I was diagnosed. I remember the daylike it was yesterday. I know the clothes I was wearing, I knowwhere I parked my jeep in the parking lot like that. was that,because there was a day for me that I went from feeling like I wasbroken for most of my life to just feeling like I was reminded that Iwas different. And when I say that, it's I was extremely successful postcollege schooling. It was very tough for me and I couldn't ever figure out whyI people would say, imagine if you applied yourself, and I was like, I was trying as hard as I could and couldn't solve some of thesethings that existed. And so big. Diagnosed was a big it was abig I it's Oh, it probably one the only times of my life Ifelt a weight lifted off of me, like I remember that feeling, butI will say there wasn't like a okay, now I'm going to go change theworld with this conversation. It was...

...actually three years later I was onstage and I had really not talked about my adhd much at all, likeit was like I was medicated. I understood. I started to be alittle bit more into the mental health space, you know, from a from liketrying to understand its role with technology. But I was actually giving one ofthe largest keynotes I've ever given in my entire life. I was ata Amazon web services the AWS event in Muscone inside of San Francisco, andafter my sixty minute q note, I was doing a kind of a Qawith the audience and someone asked Woll you are like really your energy, youtalk fast, you have a lot of things going on, but I can'tget enough, like you must have adhd or something, and I was likethe person's question, like for the audience, and I remember being like, well, actually I do. I was diagnosed a couple of years ago andand I've realized that it impacts every part of my life, but it's alsothere's ways that I'm turning into my superpower and part of my greatness are thethings that adhd enables. And you know, and I went on and ask acouple other questions or answer a couple other questions, and then afterwards,you know, after get off stage, there's a line of people that arewaiting for you. You know, I remember I give a sixty minute keynothat I thought it was really, really well designed. I would say eightyfive percent of the people that came up afterwards talked about my answer mentioning Adhd, and it was someone that had a daughter with dyslexia, someone that Iactually struggle with odd to is m and she didn't want to tell anyone aroundher. And I remember, and the day actually about. I was forpeople left in the line and there's this lady. I could see her likeI was talking to somebody. I could see her, the next person totalk to me, and she was on her phone on facetime, and Iremember feeling like that's kind of rude, like you're waiting in line to talkto me and you're on like this. It's about really awkward, right.And so like the that person I was talking to left and I walked Iwas like, man, do you want me to skip you? And combatshe's like no, no, no, she's like I have my son onfacetime and I just told him what you shared about your adhd on stage andhe's going through some things. He's twenty one years old and he's decided thathe doesn't want to go to his college classes anymore because he's ashamed by someof the things that that exist. He has to deal with anxiety and acouple things, and I end up grabbing a phone and you know, itwas very awkward for him because he's like mom, you know, a twentyone year old kid. Well, has his mom like handing his phone tosome random speaker kid at you know, and I just like, kind ofhad a normal conversation and asked him a couple questions. You ask me acouple questions. And then at the end he was just like, he's like, but why? Why are you like putting it out there? And Iwas like, well, honestly, for me, the more open I amabout it, the less power it gives others to hate on me for itor to judge me, and ultimately it allows people to better understand the thingsthat I'm going through and, in many cases, gives them permission to admitwhat they're going through. And I remember him, I kind of like noddinghis head and I just said something, you know, is very casual.At the end I was like tell you what, I'll include it in everyintro for every time I take the stage, if you're willing to take a freshapproach to how you look at this and make sure that you're not lettingthis one limit station prevent you from showing up. And he said yes,of course, and and since that day, so since that day I've put itinto my pro you know, it's...

...been part of my my you knowmy bio and someone introduces me on stage. But it really was the last threeyears that I kind of leveled it up, probably a level that mostpeople are seeing now, and a lot of that had to do with themore I shared about my adhd. Not only did it did it help otherskind of admit the things they have going on, but it allowed those that, like might look at things that are going on in my life as likeme. Like Brian, why aren't you replying to my text? Like Iknow that you saw the text. You're on twitter or on Instagram, you'renot replying. Well, for me, like the way that our adhd brainswork. Part of it is it's not that I don't look at that asa priority, it's just that my brain doesn't stack tasks. Everything is aneven plain, and so when other things come up, it just pushes thingsalong. And so those other things could be basic and mundane, but justthe way the way that brain works. And so three years ago I kindof started leaning it to a more and then about eighteen months ago my middledaughter was diagnosed adhd and dyslexia and that was a whole nother you know,I got to see through a dad's eyes. I also got to see it throughwell, what if I was diagnosed at her age? What would Ihave wanted? How can I approach that? Right? That meant a lot tome and truthfully, I haven't really showed this much publicly yet, butit's something that it's coming out is based on going through that with my daughter. I went through testing for dyslexia and was diagnosed now with dyslexia myself.And the interesting part of that is I'm a host and MC for some ofthe biggest events in the world and part of the thing I learned for yearswas I struggle pronouncing some people's last names and what I did was I cameup with my own way where I would go to them and say what areyour friends call you? What's a nickname? I want to introduce you by thatand they everyone always thought that was me hyper personalizing. Really it wasme. It was me covering for something that I struggled with. Right,he was like it was a coping mechanism that, like everyone I introduced,I always you use a slang or their nickname, because then I didn't haveto mess up their last name, and so that interesting part of that forme and where we're at today, and I think the pandemic taught us thismore than anything else. Right, like, nobody, no matter what your jobtitle is, no matter how much money you make for a living,it's not going to stop your kid from walking behind your zoom call right,it's not going to. It's not like the human condition that exists around.Like we all have those things that are going on, and so I thinkthe beauty where we're at right now and we're like the ADHD shows up forme was that I don't need people to to stop or to change everything towork with me, but if, if they understand how I work best andI understand how you work best and we can meet in the middle. Ibelieve that's how we could all look at you all the things in our life'slike my my main focus for it now is I want everyone to look attheir vulnerabilities that they have and shift their mindset rather than thing of it asa vulnerability, thing of it what things is that vulnerability in power that onlyI can do and it's a you know, it's a beautiful space where in Ithink mental health as a priority right now is such a refreshing thing.I grew up in a house that medicine, mental health, you know, noneof those things are ever discussed or...

...you know, existed. Yet mydaughters know at two hundred forty in the afternoon there's time for daddy to takea second dose of that. Are All like they know that in like inthe conversation, because I want them to know that. I know I amnot perfect and things like that exists. So yeah, for me IT'S Ait's a beautiful arena where we're at. And and ultimately, I think thereason I'm so avid and, you know, a loud about it, is lessabout the ADHD, but it's more about, hey, I just wantto give everybody permission to be be okay, be proud of who they are,and that includes the things that are our vulnerability. Know and and andwhat's really wonderful about that is my youngest son same thing, diagnosed adhd andDyslexia, and you know he's doing fine, but you know, once you unlockthat he then all of a sudden they go oh, and my oldestone we tested because once we tested the youngest one for dysles, who wenoticed the older one was having and all of a sudden, and what Iloved about what you said it was it was it made sense. All ofa sudden you realize why you struggled, you know, like he was saying, Oh, that makes sense why I was so and he's an a studentand they were saying, do you know how hard it is, with whathe has to be able to do that? And so I would talk to him. He says, well, you know, I don't know. Ijust kept doing it, figuring it out. Now all of a sudden he'll sayit. Oh, I'm dyslexic, and but it was permission to say, oh, that was hard. But, more importantly, now they're getting strategiesto help them moves forward to be able to do that. So Ithink you to your point the more that you talk about it. And theother thing I love, really loved about it as you give it less powerover you when you talk about it. You know, it's like Eminem rightnow in my I talk about it, then you can't make fun of itbecause it doesn't bother me. So you look silly doing that. But Ithink, and I've seen the reaction to to your really you know your strengthand willingness to stand up there and and be that person at other people canlook at and be able to say, well, if he did this,look what I can do and, more importantly, just to have that impactto say we all have something, so call what it is and move on, figure out the strategy. And I think that's just incredibly, incredibly admirable. When I and when I saw that, and so I wanted to touch baseon that one because the personal to me, but I see the passionthat you have it for you as well. So and I and I'll sit justreal quill. I'll just draw on there. I had someone this pastweek, one of the biggest name people that I am even in the circleof in the industry, that I've looked up to for years, send mea direct message via twitter and said Hey, can I go on the phone withyou and I will tell you was one of those moments of we're sure, of course, where we have the discussion and and she opened up thatshe was diagnosed with some autism and she's going through some things that and Iwill tell you the feeling that the information she shared with me and how thefact that someone had turned her onto my...

...openness with adhd before she went throughthe testing and that can connection to like Oh hey, there are people thatare owning it, that are successful, and I love that you mentioned withyours, with your son. That the reason I believe a lot of thisis also coming to light was there are a lot of things that were misdiagnosedor assumptions right. Like I was the youngest senior VP ever in a companyof Twentyzero people in a government contractor, and when I was diagnosed I wasit still was like the Oh my God goodness, like imagine all the thingsthat I to the point of me having to change the way I said people'slast names are. You almost develop he's coping. But I will also say, you know, I'm a business I'm all for business right, and peoplewill often ask, and I've had this discussion a lot on Brian, yourAdhd, do you think it like makes things worse or harder or like peopleare going to judge and and I know the people are probably going to judgeand there are maybe people that will if there's equal grounds and they're like,Oh, you know, I'm gonna have Brian and might need you know,there might be some more thing. I'm okay understanding that. But I willsay for me, the conversations, the connections that it's opened up by simplyjust explaining the things I'm going through have been life changing. And like thatphone call this past week, and I mean she broke down in tears,and this is someone that I hold on like the highest of all high pedestals. And and we're going to we're going to do the story together, shewants me to. We're going to do a piece of content together on it. But for me it was I even told our ADIANA's like I don won'ttell anyone that you called or the dis conversation ever happened, like I wantyou to go on your own journey. She's like no, she's like,don't mention my name yet until we put out a piece of content on itand like make something on it. But she's like no, that you.You've changed the way that I'm even going through this to understand, the wayto look at it, and I mean for me, like in like mylike the why I'm doing all of this was that phone call alone. Right, there was something that I would have I wished I had someone to callnine years ago and I was diagnosed right just said hey, you got thesethings going on, you have to own it. And so, yeah,I just wanted to share that because, like, because I think also inthis like world of business where at right now, there are a lot ofthings that you have to do a risk verse reward, right, like what'sthe risk of me sharing this about me? What's the rewards of me sharing?And I think oftentimes rewards. We sometimes look at the rewards and likethe well, people are going to better understand me individually or or no,now I'm you know, if I don't reply to email, someone's going togive me a little bit more grace. But I think the rewards is likethat human aspect, like that, like, just like that, someone that Iwas there for, someone that I didn't even know, knew who Iwas right anyways. Like, to me, that's the beauty of what we're doingonline. Like even you share right there about your kids and getting themboth tested right there are a lot of people that are like, Oh,well, if you're getting them tested, if Glenn is is looking at that, maybe I need to go back and approach that, because it's not abouteverything we've done up until this day being wrong. It's just we are ata place now where we can approach things differently and we can go at themin a way that maybe we'll shift the...

...dialog, because our schools and ourcorporate world are broken when it comes to setting up for neurodiverse success. Right. They are not built for that at all right now and I don't believethey will be until we move the conversation into the Public Forum, because theyI don't blame them for not being built for a neuro diversity, because ifyou were neuro diverse, which is like, for those that don't you know,it's all of the different things, from autism to Dyslexia, to anxietyto Adhd, the all of the the inner diverse concept is that your brainjust works differently. Yeah, and why? Because differently great. Yeah. Andand for me, like, I mean I'm a very emotional person right, like, and I'll just show this last piece. Like I was akid, I played college hockey. I was very successful in sports, everysport I played in in high schooling, I tried out for a team,I made it, but I was never the best. I was always theI would always say like I was probably the smartest on the floor. Icould see the most or and now I know why, but I was onethat if a coach yelled at me, I took it so personally I wouldstart crying right and I would tell you I'm a college hockey player on thebench my sophomore year. Were undefeated and the coach barrates me about my positionand I just start bawling, like full on tear. So what we allknow, that locker room is cry baby fans. Oh, like you know. And but for me the tears were how I because I took everything personally. But then I was always the one that would be able to sit withit. Look at the coach and go, put me out there, I'll proveyou wrong. This time I would jump out and I learned now,looking back, there are a lot of people that have that same like rejectrejection sensitivity disorder like I have, that are very emotional but they have notgot to a place where they're comfortable with that a letting it externally exist.Who are the amount of kids today, the amount of people today that takethat and personally go sit by themselves and and struggle, you know, inthose dark closes, the dark rooms. For me, when I started justlike kind of like lean, hey, it was just who I am atwhat I was all about. The idea of that now, like if Icould just go back in new and college. Hey, Brian, the they areparts of your brain that and I did. We did a brain scan. My parts of my brain are flipped and the part of my brain thatusually would trigger for someone to take in that feedback and take that from likea responsive is where my emotions are set. And so, like my I cryingis me me accepting it. It's nothing I'm doing wrong right right now. At times, I was told as a kid, suck it up,Ryan, boys don't cry in the baseball field. Brian, you got tobe kidding. I was. I was taken home and it was it wasnot no fault of anyone that was doing it at the time. But likefor me, like that is like the example of like understanding. Now,if we give people permission to understand themselves in those moments, you won't gointo those dark closet. You will kind of accept that. And and forme, if I can, if just sharing this once in one podcast,one episode impacts one person. You know, I feel like everything has been worthit. No, and I and I think the conversation and you're standingthere and my understanding. Now, you know, it's just an idea.If you think about it just from a...

...very simple level, or the wayI think about it, is that, you know, it's like a computer. His brain processes information differently than someone else is. And that's okay becausewithin you know, if we stop with the labels, like that's bad.Well, no, not really, because when I see other people who nowI know have that, there's some of the most productive, focused individuals,like they'll sit there and they'll do the research and they'll get it done,but in this other arena they might be a little more awkward, where,on the flip you're really great in this one but you struggle over here.So it's getting away from the labels of good or bad and just starting toput your arms around. What does this person need to be successful? Theyneed a little more time, they need a little more they need some reminders. This person needs you to pack them on the back this person. Yetyou right. I think that's where you're what you were saying is business isin schools, because it's still built on a factory mentality. If we needeverybody to be doing it sort of the same way, because it's easier tomanage twenty, thirty, whatever size, classroom or business. I have ateam of forty people. I can't worry about everybody's little nook. But that'sreally what leadership, I think, is going to have to evolve into tounderstand those people, because great leaders do understand that and they do give thepeople that space to understand that. I don't talk to Brian First thing inthe morning because if I bother him, he needs to he needs to sethis day up. Or this other person, if I don't say good morning tothem, they think I'm mad at them and they're not not good forthe whole day right. That's really what we have to get to. ButI think the more that, especially people who are viewed as successful, andI that's again why I have such admiration for what you're doing, because peoplewill look at you and say, Oh, he's got it made. Look atthat, because they're looking at the external. They don't know one thestruggles that you've gone through and then now all of a sudden you unlocking thatto go oh that's why it was a pain in the ass in college,makes sense now, and now you're going, okay, now I can think.But I would challenge in this is we're always looking in hindsight. TwoThousand and twenty. If you had been giving that those things at early collegeor early on, would you be the person you are today? Right?We're not. Probably, yeah, you're right. You know, you gotto look at it and say, well, if so, then I'd be somewhereelse. And then, yeah, maybe I would. We have animpact, but maybe I would have stayed in that military job forever and notchallenge myself, and that would have been great. But look at the impactthat you're having right now. One for all the people who listen to yourcontent, for yourself, for your family. I mean it's easy to look inhindsight. We think that if we change it will be where we aretoday, but just better. Right, always going, you probably wouldn't behere, and so that's something. So again, it's I tell you,it's something like four years to go from why did no one tell me that? Why? What would my life be...

...different to wow, all of thatallowed me to get to where I'm at. And I would say that the twopeople that I've been throwing out a lot, simone biles, gymnasts.You know, yes, you know and Michael Phelps are both adhd diagnosed.They are both been medicated since they were young. And when you look atsuccess, you look at drive, motivation, you know commitments, you know alot of the things that oftentimes we're like, Oh, you can't havethis because you're successful, you're driven, your accountable. They had people aroundthem that like took over, you know, things that like hey, if Istruggle at this, this is something that I need someone else to helpme with. And I think for anyone that's like in this dialog, Ilove that the idea that we do have to approach things as not going backbut being like, okay, all of this happened for me to get tohear, and now what can we do with this moving forward? And Ithink it's about sing forward, absolutely, because that's the key. We havea tendency look backwards and say, well, why did I have to go throughthis struggle in instead of saying I am who I am today through thatstruggle. Now that I've realized this, what can I do to move mylife forward, my family's, but also to help others? Because, youknow, if if, to your point, if I can standing on stage inspiresone person, if I share, you know, what my children gothrough and that allows someone else to go oh, wow, this is howyou did that. I mean, I think that's where we had we havea responsibility to share that message out, especially if we're in a position asyou are, standing on stages in front of people. That is probably havingas much impact as anything that you can help people with technology. Because really, one of the things that you always say is you're connecting the people andyour focus on the people. You know it could be hey, folks,one of the other things is a company. You got to focus on is focusingon your people in this way. I mean it, it's really amazing. Well, I hope you got a lot out of that episode. Iknow I did. Just that conversation with him, you know, made methink, man, I'd love to be able to and I know he will. I ask him is to have him talk to my kids to understand thatthis is not something to look at as a negative, that it can beuseful if you understand it and embrace it and look at it through that lend. So again, thank you, Brian, for being so open and honest andsharing, and please connect with him. As he said, Eysocial fans witha Z. You can get him. That's where he is on all socialmedia outlets, or you could just type him Brian Fans. Oh,there's only one out there, and please connect with them. He will definitelyreach out with you. So again, please make sure that you do subscribeto the podcast on Apple Or, if you're an android user, or onspotify. Means the world to me that you spend some time today. Pleaseshare this episode out. I know a...

...lot of people who do struggle orknow someone who has adhd. This could be very beneficial and helpful to them. So thank you so much for your attention. As they say at theend of every episode, you're in charge, but now Brian gave you a fewmore tools to help you become more successful, both personally and professionally.Thank you so much and I look forward to seeing you on the next episode.

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